Pastor James David Manning has been preaching from the pulpit at ATLAH World Missionary Church in Harlem for 44 years. He is one of the most controversial voices in the Black American church — fearlessly, deliberately so. He has been called everything you can imagine and worse. His language from the pulpit has gotten him into more public fights than most pastors face in five lifetimes. And he isn’t sorry. “If I thought for one second any word that came out of my mouth was vulgar, violent, or discredited to God, I wouldn’t do it. I’m scared of that pulpit. I’m scared.”
Pastor Manning shares his testimony — the prison cell in Florida, the armed robbery charge in New York, the moment Jesus came to him at the lowest point of his life. He tells the story of stealing his disabled grandfather’s last jar of white-lightning moonshine. He talks about the first wife he abandoned, the children he left behind, the morning he passed her walking with their newborn while he was on his way home from another woman’s bed. “What would you give to get those years back?” John asks him. “My life,” the 79-year-old pastor replies. “At this moment, I was so wrong. It was just very painful for me to have done that.”
They talk about growing up on a North Carolina plantation in the 1960s — Pastor Manning’s grandfather Charlie Patterson was born in 1862, three years before slavery ended. They talk about why he “loved going to a segregated school.” They walk through his sharp critique of Al Sharpton, Cornel West, Jay-Z, and the political class he says has hollowed out Black America. They discuss the thesis he posted online that drew John to him in the first place: “We don’t need Black politicians. We need Black fathers.”
⏱️Chapters:
0:00 The Open — Manning in His Own Words
2:56 Welcome Pastor James David Manning to Disturbing the Peace
3:53 Why John Reached Out to Pastor Manning
4:43 Addressing the Language From the Pulpit
5:13 The Pastor Who Fell Dead in His Own Pulpit
6:03 “I’m Scared of That Pulpit”
6:28 When Jesus Called the Pharisees a Generation of Vipers
8:12 Why the Church Needs to Be Uncomfortable
9:11 The New York Bill to Remove “Father” and “Mother”
10:57 You’ve Brought Up Jesus
13:04 Who Is James David Manning?
13:55 Stealing His Grandfather’s Last Jar of Moonshine
15:02 The Pain of Sin That Still Lives With Him
15:52 Growing Up in 1960s North Carolina
16:48 His Grandfather Charlie Patterson Born in 1862
24:00 Why He Loved Going to a Segregated School
26:33 The Democrat Party Has Turned Our Women Into Our Men
27:43 Why the Black Marriage Rate Used to Rival Whites
28:14 The Word Heard in Rap Songs But Banned From the Pulpit
29:36 What Does Your Wife Say About All This?
29:57 “Black People Did Not Build America” — Saying More
33:28 Going After Al Sharpton
34:28 The 1995 Freddy’s Fashion Mart Fire and What Came After
55:00 The Marriage He Destroyed
57:57 The Affair That Started It
58:26 Passing His Wife and Newborn on the Way Home From Another Woman
59:23 “I Thought I Was Entitled”
1:00:22 What Would You Give to Get It Back?
1:01:00 If the Pastor Stood on That Word
1:02:39 This Episode Airs on Father’s Day
1:04:00 The 72% Black Single-Parent Reality
1:08:21 Should We Shut Down the Churches and Reopen the Homes?
1:10:56 Why He Calls the New York Mayor “Mom Dummy”
1:11:40 Pastor Manning on Trump — Strong Language Warning
1:14:20 John Pushes Back — Let’s Talk Policy, Not Personality
1:15:46 The Treasury Secretary, the LGBTQ Cabinet, and Why He Got Off the Trump Train
1:17:31 The 2024 Election — Why He Stayed Home
1:18:46 Obama vs. Trump — Which Took More From Black Men?
1:20:02 “He Promised to Marry Us — Then Started Around With Homosexuals”
1:23:01 Islam in America and the Growth of the Muslim Community
1:25:38 Why Muslim Men Don’t Become Homeless
1:35:10 Homelessness, Christianity, and What Jesus Will Say
1:35:38 Go Get That Black Man
1:35:46 What Has Saying Unpopular Things Cost You?
1:36:00 Union Theological Seminary and the Road He Didn’t Take
1:36:49 The “Get on the Trump Train” Song That Came From His Church
1:37:23 The People Who Walked Out of Church With Their Pocketbooks
1:38:31 What He Did to His Family
1:38:44 The Divine Nine — Fraternities and Sororities
1:39:01 Why He Calls Them Satanic
1:40:05 How Do You Want to Be Remembered?
1:40:14 “I Don’t — I Want to Live Forever”
1:40:41 John’s Closing Words to Pastor Manning
1:41:01 Pastor Manning’s Blessing — “I Pray God Gives You Battles”
1:41:56 God Bless You
1:42:11 John’s Sign-Off — Go Get Your Family
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